Does the Quran Misdescribe the Trinity?
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Quran 5:116 has Allah ask Jesus: “Did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?’” Quran 5:73 condemns those who say “Allah is the third of three,” and 4:171 warns “do not say ‘Three.’” Read together with 5:75 (Jesus and Mary “both used to eat food” — an argument against their divinity), the Quran appears to think the Christian Trinity is Allah, Jesus, and Mary, and that Christians worship three gods. No Christian body, orthodox or heretical, ever defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Mary; the doctrine is one God in three persons, defined at Nicaea (325) and Constantinople (381), centuries before the Quran.
Common Muslim Responses
Apologists answer that 5:116 condemns Mariolatry (excessive Marian veneration, allegedly among the “Collyridians” mentioned by Epiphanius), not a definition of the Trinity, and that “third of three” renders a Syriac Christian idiom for the Trinity rather than asserting tritheism.
Counter-Rebuttal
The Collyridian rescue rests on a single hostile fourth-century reference to an obscure sect with no evidence of presence in seventh-century Arabia, critics reply — while the Quran addresses “People of the Gospel” generally, never distinguishing a fringe sect from the Chalcedonian, Miaphysite, and Nestorian churches that actually surrounded Arabia. And if 5:116 targets only excess veneration, the question put to Jesus (“did you tell people to take you and your mother as two gods”) still misses every form of Christianity on record. The internal-critique point stands: the Quran claims to correct Christian doctrine yet repeatedly engages a doctrine no Christians held.
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Quran 5:116 has Allah ask Jesus: “Did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?’” Quran 5:73 condemns those who say “Allah is the third of three,” and 4:171 warns “do not say ‘Three.’” Read…
Apologists answer that 5:116 condemns Mariolatry (excessive Marian veneration, allegedly among the “Collyridians” mentioned by Epiphanius), not a definition of the Trinity, and that “third of three” renders a Syriac Chri…
The Collyridian rescue rests on a single hostile fourth-century reference to an obscure sect with no evidence of presence in seventh-century Arabia, critics reply — while the Quran addresses “People of the Gospel” genera…
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Quran 5:116 has Allah ask Jesus: “Did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?’” Quran 5:73 condemns those who say “Allah is the third of three,” and 4:171 warns “do not say ‘Three.’” Read…
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Apologists answer that 5:116 condemns Mariolatry (excessive Marian veneration, allegedly among the “Collyridians” mentioned by Epiphanius), not a definition of the Trinity, and that “third of three” renders a Syriac Christian idiom for the Trinity rather than asserting tritheism.
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The Collyridian rescue rests on a single hostile fourth-century reference to an obscure sect with no evidence of presence in seventh-century Arabia, critics reply — while the Quran addresses “People of the Gospel” genera…
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The Collyridian rescue rests on a single hostile fourth-century reference to an obscure sect with no evidence of presence in seventh-century Arabia, critics reply — while the Quran addresses “People of the Gospel” genera…
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